I do not know if anyone else has already filled in the chart in their books but not the wiki, but if you have, check my numbers, because they seem wayyyyyyyyy off, and if they are really wrong, I would appreciate someone showing me how to do it right. thanks - Scott, P.S. I could not find the molar mass of pentatol or pentathol or whatever it is supposed to be.
The molar mass of Pentanol is 88 g/mol - Manuel
Anything relevant about the formal lab....write here!
I used the formula -(mct of H2O)(MM alcohol)/g(alcohol) = C of Alcohol and I went over most peoples data and it matched up so these molar enthalpies are definitely consistent with the data we have up there. But I can't make head or tail of what conclusion we're supposed to draw from this. Personally, I thought we were gonna see a steady increase in enthalpy as the molecule structure got longer and longer so the order would look something like this:
Ethanol
Propanol
Isopropyl Alcohol (i'm not too sure about where the Isopropyls should go considering their molar mass is the same but their structure is branched...)
Butanol
Pentanol
N-Ayml
Isopropyl Alcohol
-Manuel
Okay, me Scott and Ben were talking, and we decided that everyone should calculate their own enthalpy for their alcohols so that we dont have to calculate it 7 times.
Thx
-Peter
Heyy guys! If you need help formatting/referencing in APA, I know this website that is good. It has samples and it breaks the process down so it doesn't look as complicated to do =) http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/560/01/ I'm pretty sure we need to write the format mostly in APA.
-Orlean
Heats of Combustion Data Table
HERE'S what i got for expected results off the internet
can everyone compare theirs and tell me if i got any mistakes?
What are we doing with the double in the alcohol?
-qing
Qing, can you reference where you got your results?
And I'm not 100% sure on what to do with the double scenario either...
-Orlean
Do we include percent error in the results or discussion??
-Simone
OH! And also, what do we put in the results vs the discussion?? I'm kinda confused.
Results: the expected enthalpies vs. the experimental enthalpies.
a graph of the molar mass vs. enthalpy, all the other raw data/analysed data that you've collected
Discussion: through calorimetry, it can be determined that the enthalpies should be this way. The enthalpies seem to increase with added molar mass. Any other comments you want to make about the data/results (and also sources of error).
That's what I'm going to include, I think (does that help a bit?)
Andy~
degrees C
grams
KJ/mol
I do not know if anyone else has already filled in the chart in their books but not the wiki, but if you have, check my numbers, because they seem wayyyyyyyyy off, and if they are really wrong, I would appreciate someone showing me how to do it right. thanks - Scott, P.S. I could not find the molar mass of pentatol or pentathol or whatever it is supposed to be.
The molar mass of Pentanol is 88 g/mol - Manuel
Anything relevant about the formal lab....write here!
I used the formula -(mct of H2O)(MM alcohol)/g(alcohol) = C of Alcohol and I went over most peoples data and it matched up so these molar enthalpies are definitely consistent with the data we have up there. But I can't make head or tail of what conclusion we're supposed to draw from this. Personally, I thought we were gonna see a steady increase in enthalpy as the molecule structure got longer and longer so the order would look something like this:
Ethanol
Propanol
Isopropyl Alcohol (i'm not too sure about where the Isopropyls should go considering their molar mass is the same but their structure is branched...)
Butanol
Pentanol
N-Ayml
Isopropyl Alcohol
-Manuel
Okay, me Scott and Ben were talking, and we decided that everyone should calculate their own enthalpy for their alcohols so that we dont have to calculate it 7 times.
Thx
-PeterHeyy guys! If you need help formatting/referencing in APA, I know this website that is good. It has samples and it breaks the process down so it doesn't look as complicated to do =)
http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/560/01/
I'm pretty sure we need to write the format mostly in APA.
-Orlean
Heats of Combustion
Data Table
HERE'S what i got for expected results off the internet
can everyone compare theirs and tell me if i got any mistakes?
KJ/mol
What are we doing with the double in the alcohol?
-qing
Qing, can you reference where you got your results?
And I'm not 100% sure on what to do with the double scenario either...
-Orlean
Do we include percent error in the results or discussion??
-Simone
OH! And also, what do we put in the results vs the discussion?? I'm kinda confused.
Results: the expected enthalpies vs. the experimental enthalpies.
a graph of the molar mass vs. enthalpy, all the other raw data/analysed data that you've collected
Discussion: through calorimetry, it can be determined that the enthalpies should be this way. The enthalpies seem to increase with added molar mass. Any other comments you want to make about the data/results (and also sources of error).
That's what I'm going to include, I think (does that help a bit?)
Andy~
http://www.creative-chemistry.org.uk/gcse/documents/Module7/N-m07-24.pdf
Here's some of the enthalpies.